1) dismissive attitudes towards other people's problems, attempts to silence others who have issues, downvotes for valid complaints
> "X is dead get over it!"
> "Stop complaining, don't be so negative"
> ["Complain about things that can be changed, not about old issues or things that are set in stone."](https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/bkz2qx/i_love_firefox_but_im_starting_to_dislike_the/emkf60m/?context=3)
This sub is a place for anyone and everyone to discuss things related to Firefox. Don't try to control the discussion just because you don't like the topic.
2) Whataboutism: But Chrome does X, and Firefox only does Y!
> ["Chrome got less hate for shipping malware extensions to millions of users. Firefox users just got to see the web WITH ads and they had to copy/paste the passwords"](https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/bkz2qx/i_love_firefox_but_im_starting_to_dislike_the/emke283/?context=3)
> ["Google and Facebook do privacy fiascos and no one jumps ship so fast and Firefox’s makes one small mistake"](https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/bkll55/firefox_i_love_you_3000_everyone_is_allowed_to_do/)
We hold Firefox to a higher standard *because* it should be better. How do you expect it to improve if you're gonna compare it to the worst of the worst?
3) Blind cheerleading, inciting conflict by stirring up browser tribalism, and justifying abusive relationships
> [Blindly Google bashing](https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/bj1kjg/browser_war_google_docs_displays_unsupported/em4qsa9/)
> [You must stop using Chrome](https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/2cyk0w/choose_firefox_now_or_later_you_wont_get_a_choice/)
> [Browser tribalism](https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/akfzbv/fun_fact_about_firefox_users/)
> Abusive relationship: ["If you switch away from Firefox to punish Mozilla, you are actually punishing the open web!"](https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/7kg5sf/if_you_switch_away_from_firefox_to_punish_mozilla/)
Don't you dare try to bully me into using Firefox because of that thing X that you care about very much.
A browser is a tool. Using a tool does not constitute an endorsement of the creator's philosophy, or belonging to their "team". As a user, we choose the best tool for the job and that's it. Using Firefox doesn't mean I like what Mozilla's doing. Using Chrome doesn't mean I want a WebKit monopoly.
This tribal mentality that we're on Firefox's side is just stupid. Do you think people who use nails vs screws fight each other like this? There are no "sides" to this debate because there aren't any teams at all!
You can like a thing and still criticize it and you can hate a thing and still use it because there's no better option. This "you're either with me or against me" attitude is divisive. And just like politics, the way we've turned this into a team sport is toxic. Look at the actual issues at hand, and don't just blindly wave your team's flag around.
There shouldn't be any fight Chrome users and Firefox users, the real battle is between Chrome devs and Firefox devs. If Chrome dominates the web, it's not because I, as a user, didn't "support" Firefox enough (whatever that means), it's because Mozilla failed to draw in more Firefox users.